Collecting GB Definitives

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Based on David Wright's The colours that kept on running from the September 2009 issue of Stamp Magazine.

Here's a spreadsheet of requirements and progress. [not maintained]

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Halfpenny

Here are the entries from the article. In concentrating on colour, it misses some issues.
  • Victoria
  • ✓✓ 1870 bantam SG48 (rose-red) and SG49 (rose). The price for regular examples of both is £90/18 for mint/used. I have a very poor example and will look for a better one. This is the only ½d with initials. [£75/10]
  • 1880 SG164 (deep green) and SG165 (pale green), both £45/12 for mint/used [£35/6]
  • 1883 SG187 slate blue in the same design as 1880, £25/8. [£14/4]
  • ✓ 1887 SG197 (vermillion) and SG197e (orange-vermillion) all at £2, mint and used. [£1/1]
  • 1900 SG213 blue-green, £2, m/u. [£1/1]
  • Edward VII
  • ✓ 1902 SG215, dull blue-green, £3/2. SG216-218 are colour variants at the same prices.[£2/1/1]
  • 1911 SG267-271 A new printer, similar colours and wider price ranges. SG279 and 279a, expensive perforation variants.
  • George V
  • 1911 SG321-326, all varieties of green with SG322 the cheapest at £8/4. [£8/4/2] SG334-335 are from booklets and expensive.
  • 1912 SG338-340, small design differences, notably a 'well defined beard'. SG339-40 are cheaper at £15/8. SG344 and SG346-348 watermark and colour variants. [£9/5/1]
  • ✓ 1913 SG351-356 king's head now in profile. Various greens with SG351 and 352 at £3/1. SG397 (1913) and SG418 (1924) watermark variants. [£1/40p/40p]
  • ✓ 1929 SG424 green, PUC commemorative, but definitive format, £3/2. [£2/50p/45p]
  • 1934 SG439 green, similar design but a new printing method (photogravure), £1 m/u. The catalogue notes that the stamp sizes were subsequently reduced slightly to allow wider perforations.[25p/10p/15p]
  • 1935 SG453 green Silver Jubilee commemorative [80p/40p/30p]
  • Edward VIII
  • 1936 SG457 green, 30p m/u. [10p m/u]
  • George VI
  • ✓ 1937 SG462 green 30p m/u. [15p/10p]
  • 1940 SG479 green centenary [£4 m/u for the set].
  • 1941 SG485 pale green - saving ink as part of the war effort. 30p m/u. [15p/10p]
  • 1951 SG503 pale orange, colour change to comply with UPU standards. 30p m/u. [10p/20p]
  • Elizabeth II
  • ✓ 1953 SG515 orange-red 15p m/u [10p]. 1955 SG540 from booklets. 1957 SG561 graphite for sorting. 1958 SG570, watermark, both similar prices. 1958 SG587 expensive paper variants. 1959 (SG599) and 1960 (SG610) phosphor bands.
  • ✓ 1967 SG723 orange-brown Machin. [20p/10p]


From which it may be concluded that I need:
  • ✓* SG48/49 used
  • SG164/165 used
  • SG187 used
  • ✓ SG197 mint
  • SG213 mint
  • ✓SG215-217 mint
  • SG322 mint
  • SG339-340 m/u
  • ✓ SG351-352 mint
  • ✓ SG424 mint
  • SG457 mint
  • ✓ SG462 mint
  • SG485 mint
  • SG503 mint
  • ✓ SG515 mint
  • ✓ SG723 mint
  • SG453 com
  • SG479 com
Acquisitions
Already held: SG197, SG351, SG424, SG462, SG723
Held but initials needed: SG48
Others: SG164/5 U; SG187 U; SG213 M; SG215-7 M; SG322 M; SG339-40 MU; SG457 M; SG485 M; SG503 M; SG515 M.
  • [24Feb12] a set of the pre-decimal machins for £1.50 from Stampex
  • [27Feb12] #1 Appropriately the first acquisition is the first stamp, a bantam ½d for £12.49. Inevitably I then found one with my initials #2 selling for £17.99: not as good a stamp, but I would have preferred it. So it goes.
  • [25Mar12] #3 SG287 from a Bexley PS box for £1.
  • [7Apr12] #4 bantam NB on ebay, starting at a sensible £1.99 which I failed to win.
  • [29Apr12] #5 I didn't expect to buy this BiN, but I did, for £11.99. And was immediately glad that I had.
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One penny

Much of the detail has already been taken care of on the Penny Stamps page.
  • Victoria
  • ✓✓ 1840 SG1 (intense black) £8,500/375 m/u and SG2 (just 'black') £6,500/275 m/u. [£12k/275/90, mint/4-margin/3-margin].
  • ✓✓ 1841 SG8 red-brown £180/15 SG7 (£1500/100) was printed using the same plates as the Penny Black. The colour change was so that the cancel would show more clearly. [£275/9/3]
  • [1850 Prince Albert Consort Essay - I have a set of fakes somewhere.]
  • ✓✓ 1854 SG17 red-brown £190/18 Perforated. (wmk and perf variants: 1855 SG24; 1855 SG26; 1857 SG40 - SG40 is the best value at £40/9.) [£160/8]
  • ✓✓ 1858 SG43 red £15/2 letters top and bottom. [£12/2]
  • ✓✓ 1880 SG166 brown £15/10 [£18/3]
  • ✓ 1881 SG174 mauve £3/2 [£1/1]. No more letters. ✓ SG171 (£125/25 [£150/15]) has 14 rather than 16 dots in each corner - I'll do without one of those for now.
  • Edward VII
  • ✓1902 SG219 scarlet £3/2 (variants in SG210, SG272-275) [£2/1/1]
  • George V
  • ✓1911 SG327 carmine-red £5/3
  • ✓ 1912 SG341 bright scarlet £5/2 the only difference is the shading on the lion.
  • ✓ 1912 SG357 bright scarlet £3/1 text
  • ✓1924-5 SG430/432 British Empire Ex - too large.
  • ✓ 1929 SG435 scarlet £3/2 commemorating PUC, but included as it is the right size.
  • ✓ 1934 SG440 scarlet £1/1
  • Edward VIII
  • ✓ 1936 SG458 scarlet < £
  • George VI
  • ✓ 1937 SG463 scarlet < £ also the ✓ German forgeries
  • ✓1940 SG480 scarlet £1/1 centenary, too wide.
  • ✓1941 SG486 pale scarlet <£ saving ink
  • ✓1951 SG504 light ultramarine <£ UPU
  • Elizabeth II
  • ✓ 1952 SG516 blue < £ numerous wmk, graphite and phosphor variants.
  • ✓ 1967 SG724 olive< £ Machin
Acquisitions:
Already in stock - SG2, SG8, SG43, SG174, SG341, SG357, SG435, SG440, SG458, SG463, SG724.
Stocked but initials needed - SG17, SG166.
Needed: [SG171 M/U] SG219 M; SG327 M; SG486 M; SG504 M, SG516 M.
Commems: SG430, SG432, SG480.
  • [29Feb12] #1 a nice used SG40 (SG17 substitute) NB on ebay for £7.60
  • [6Mar12] #2 SG166 on ebay, starting at 79p, finishing in four days. Has to be worth a punt at that price. [11Mar12] Got it for 79p.
  • [4Apr12] #3 SG43, a nice red starting at 99p. Not a perfect stamp, but a lovely colour, bought it for £5.50.
  • [5Apr12] #4 Penny Black with four good margins selling for £195 and #5 a nice pair for £350.
  • [18Jun12] Complete - I'll post a scan when they all arive.
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Three halfpence

  • Victoria
  • ✓✓ 1870 SG51-52 rose-red and lake-red £500/50 m/u. There is also an expensive SG53 and an 1860 unissued SG53a in rosy mauve. [£250/25]
  • ✓1880 SG167 venetian red £175/45 [£140/30]
  • ✓✓ 1884 SG188 lilac £95/38. Last initials. [£80/23]
  • ✓ 1887 SG198 dull purple and pale green, jubilee issue. [£10/2]
  • Edward VII
  • ✓ 1902 SG221-224 purple and green and minor variants, all around £75/40. Then 1911-12, same design but a different printer, SG287-289, a little cheaper. [£60/30/10]
  • George V
  • ✓ 1912 SG362-365 various browns, SG362 is £6/4. Then 1924 same design £2/1.
  • ✓1924-5 SG431/433 British Empire Ex - too large.
  • ✓ 1929 SG436 purple-brown PUC £3/2.
  • ✓ 1934 SG441 red-brown £1, both.
  • Edward VIII
  • ✓1936 SG459 red-brown < £
  • George VI
  • ✓1937 SG464 red-brown < £
  • ✓1940 SG481 red-brown, stamp centenary, too large.
  • ✓1942 SG487 pale red-brown < £
  • ✓1951 SG505 pale green UPU < £.
  • Elizabeth II
  • ✓ 1952 SG517 green < £
Acquisitions:
Already in stock - SG198, SG362, SG436, SG441
Stocked but initials needed - none
Needed: SG51-52 U NB; SG167 U NB; SG188 U NB; SG287-289 U; SG459 M; SG464 M; SG487 M; SG505 M; SG517 M.
  • [6Mar12] #1, a nice SG51 on ebay, but overpriced at £100. I'll wait for another.
  • [24Mar12] #2, a nice SG188 on ebay, starting sensibly at £1.99. In with a chance. [29Mar] And bought with the only bid.
  • [25Mar12] #3 SG215 from a Bexley PS box for £2.
  • [14Apr12] #4, two SG51s on ebay, one an NB, starting at 99p.
  • [8Jun12] #5 SG167 bought for £8.49.
  • [18Jun12] Complete - I'll post a scan when they all arrive.
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Two pence

  • Victoria
  • ✓* 1840 SG4 deep full blue £22k/825 m/u and SG5 blue £16k/650 - imperforates. [£24k/500/140]
  • ✓✓ 1841 SG13-15 various imperforates blues with white lines, SG13 and 14 are £3k/80. [£3k/50/12]
  • ✓✓1854 nine perforated blue varieties, starting with SG19 at £2,750/90. Best value SG34-35 @ £55 used. [£1k6/30]
  • ✓✓1858 SG45 blue, letters in four corners and thick white lines £300/12. SG46-47 with thin white lines £325/22. [£25/8, thick and thin]
  • 2ds seem to have missed the large/small/white/coloured corner letter controvery (see note 4) and continued with,
  • 1880 SG168 (rose) and SG168a (deep rose), both £280/90. [£180/60]
  • 1884 SG189 lilac £175/70. [£140/40]
  • 1887 SG199 green and scarlet £400/350. SG200 grey-green and carmine £40/28. [£18/8]
  • Edward VII
  • 1902 SG225-229 various greens and reds, mostly around £75/40. And 1911, same design from a new printer SG290-292 £55/28. [£70/30/10]
  • 1910 SG266a the unissued Tyrian Plum £65,000.
  • George V
  • ✓ 1912 SG366-370, all orangey. SG369/70 £8/5. A new printer in 1924 for SG421 @ £4/3 will do.
  • ✓ 1935 SG442 orange £2/1.
  • Edward VIII - none
  • George VI
  • 1938 SG465 orange £1 both
  • ✓ 1941 SG488 wartime pale orange < £1
  • 1951 SG506 pale red-brown < £1
  • Elizabeth II
  • ✓ 1953 SG518 red-brown < £1 with subsequent printer, graphite and phorphor variants
  • 1968 Machins came in two types, distinguished by the spacing of the value from the side of the stamp. Both lake-brown and < £1 ✓ SG726 type 1 SG727 type II.
Acquisitions:
Already in stock - SG4, SG13, SG366, SG442, SG726
Stocked but initials needed - SG4, SG13
Needed: SG34/35 NB U; SG45 U; SG168/a U; SG189 U; SG200 M/U; SG290-92 M/U; SG266a fake; SG465 M; SG506M; SG518 M; SG727 M (type II).
  • [18Mar12] #1 but I bought this one for £6.75.
  • [16Apr12] #2 A block of four SG46s starting at 99p.
  • [28Apr12] #3 An SG45, mine for £5.50.
  • [29Apr12] #4 SG14, BiN, bought for £11.99.

The pressure is on now to find an SG4 NB.

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Two pence halfpenny

  • Victoria
  • ✓✓ 1875 SG138-141 rosy-mauve. Try for SG141 £425/50 [£350/35]
  • ✓✓ 1880 SG142 blue £475/40 and SG157 blue £50/28 [£350/22]
  • ✓✓1884 SG190 lilac £75/15 the last letter [£58/5]
  • 1887 SG201 purple on blue paper £22/3 [£14/1]
  • Edward VII
  • 1902 SG230-31 ultramarine and pale £20/10. Later printer, colour and wmk variants more expensive. [£25/12/3]
  • George V
  • 1912 SG371-3 blue(s), get SG371 £12/4. Also new printer 1924 SG422 £10/5.
  • 1929 SG437 blue PUC £10 both.
  • ✓ 1935 SG443 ultra £2/1.
  • 1935 SG456 COM £5/6
  • Edward VIII
  • 1936 SG460 < £1
  • George VI
  • ✓ 1937 SG466 ultra < £1
  • 1940 SG483 ultra £2/1
  • 1941 SG489 wartime light < £1
  • 1946 SG491 COM < £1
  • 1948 SG493 COM < £1
  • 1948 SG495 COM < £1
  • 1949 SG499 COM < £1
  • 1951 SG507 pale scarlet £2/1
  • 1951 SG513 COM < £1
  • Elizabeth II
  • ✓ 1952 SG519 carmine red < £1
  • no Machins
  • consider comms to 1963
GB 2.5d stamps
Acquisitions:
Already in stock - SG142 (need better), SG443, SG466.
Stocked but initials needed - none
Needed: SG141 U; SG157 NB U; SG190 NB U; SG201; SG230/31; SG371 or SG422 M; SG437 M; SG460 M; SG483 M; SG489; SG507 M; SG519 M.
Coms: SG456 M; SG491 M; SG493 M; SG495 M; SG499 M; SG513 M; comms to 1963.
  • [1Mar12] #1 SG142, not a great stamp, but an NB picked up on ebay for £1.43 with a 3d from the same seller
  • [2Mar12] #2 SG157 currently on ebay, finishing tomorrow. Got it for £1.99.
  • [6Mar12] #3 SG141 on ebay for £5.99, finishing in two days. Probably just about worth that. [8Mar] I bought it.
  • [27Mar12] #4 SG190 starting on ebay at 75p. Got it for 75p.
  • [19Apr12] #5 I bought this SG157 for £2.20. That's enough 157s
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Three pence

  • Victoria
  • ✓✓ 1862 SG75-7 shades of carmine-rose SG76-7 £1700/250 small white letters plus SG78, an 'abnormal' with white dots. [£1k8/225]
  • ✓✓ 1865 SG92 rose £1500/180 large white letters, also SG102/3, the latter £450/55 [£375/35]
  • ✓✓ 1873 SG143-4 rose both £400/45 large coloured letters, plus SG158 watermark change, £400/80 [£300/30]
  • 1883 SG159 3d on 3d o/p lilac £450/130 [£400/80]
  • 1884 SG191 lilac £190/90, last of the letters 135/38
  • 1887 SG202/3 purple on yellow £35/22 [£18/2]. Also SG204 deep purple on orange £1000/550
  • Edward VII
  • 1902 SG232-4 purplish on yellowish, best value SG232b, 233b and 234 @ £80/40 [£70/30/7]. With a new printer, a similar SG277 and 285 and the 277a variant in grey on lemon @ £5,500/3,000.
  • George V
  • ✓ 1912 SG374-377 various violets, best SG375 @ £10/5. The 1924 SG423 with a new printer is more expensive.
  • 1935 SG444 violet both £1
  • Edward VIII - none
  • George VI
  • 1938 SG467 violet £5/1
  • 1940 SG484 COM both £3
  • 1941 SG490 wartime pale £ 3/1
  • 1946 SG492 COM < £ 1
  • 1948 SG496 COM < £1
  • 1949 SG500 COM < £1
  • Elizabeth II
  • ✓ 1954 SG520 deep lilac £1 with the usual perf and identifiaction variants
  • 1960 SG619 COM £
  • 1961 SG621A COM £
  • 1962 SG632 COM £
  • 1963 SG642 COM £
  • ✓ 1967 SG729 machin £
Acquisitions:
Already in stock - SG375, SG729
Stocked but initials needed - none
Needed: small white - SG76/7 NB U £1700/250; large white - SG103 NB U £450/55; large colour - SG143-4 NB U £400/45; SG159 NB U; SG191 NB U; SG202/3 M/U; SG232b/233b/234 M/U; SG444 M; SG467 M; SG490 M; SG520 M
Coms: SG484 M; SG492 M; SG496 M; SG500 M; SG619 M; SG621A M; SG632 M; SG642 M;
  • [1Mar12] #1 SG143, not a great stamp, but an NB picked up on ebay for £1.95 with a 2½d from the same seller
  • [30Mar12] #2 A messy SG77 starting at 99p. I bought it for £11.50
    and #3 a lovely multiple SG103 selling for £100.
  • [7Apr12] #4 Not the nicest SG103, but priced to go, starting at 99p. If I get this then, with #1 and #3 aleady in the bag, I'll have my first set of small white, large white and large coloured corner letters. [14Apr12] Got it for £2.25: a fair price for an imperfect stamp.
  • #5 The set of small white (SG77), large white (SG103) and large coloured (SG143) corner letters. Acquired for £11.50 (?%), £2.25 (?%) and £1.95(?%)
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Four pence

  • Victoria
  • 1855 SG62-66 various carmine, best SG66 £1500/100, no letters. [£1k/55]
  • 1862 SG79-82 various reds, all around £1500/100, small white [£875/55]
  • ✓✓ 1865 SG93-4 vermillion SG94 - £575/60, large white [£400/40]
  • 1876 SG152 vermillion £1950/425 [£1k4/300]
  • 1877 SG153 sage green £900/250 [£800/180]
  • 1880 SG154 grey-brown £1800/450 get SG160 £350/60 [£1k2/325]
  • SG152, 3, 4 are all the same design with large (differently) coloured letters
  • ✓✓ 1884 SG192 dull green £425/185 [£325/100]
  • 1887 SG205(a) green and purple brown or (a) deep brown, both £50/30 [£22/7]
  • Edward VII
  • 1902 SG235-238 various greens and browns, all around £80/40 [£65/30/15]
  • 1909 SG239-241 various oranges, same design as 1902 SG240/41 both £45/20 [£32/15/10]. Also 1911 SG278 orange £75/50.
  • George V
  • ✓ 1913 SG378-80 grey-green, get SG379 £15/2. Also SG424, new printer.
  • 1935 SG445 grey-green £2/1
  • Edward VIII - none
  • George VI
  • ✓ 1938 SG468 grey-green < £1
  • 1950 SG508 light ultra both £2
  • 1951 SG514 Com < £1
  • Elizabeth II
  • ✓ 1953 SG521 ultra £3/1. Also 1955 SG546 and 1958 SG576, cheaper.
  • 1953 SG533 com £2 both
  • 1957 SG558 com £1 both
  • ✓ 1957 SG560 defcom < £1
  • 1961 SG627 com < £1
  • stop there?
  • ✓ 1967 SG731 machin 10p
  • ✓ 1969 SG733 machin 10p
Acquisitions:
Already in stock - SG379, SG468, SG731, SG733
Stocked but initials needed -
Needed: SG66 U; SG79-82 NB U; SG93-4 NB U; SG152 NB U; SG153 NB U; SG160 NB U; SG192 NB U; SG205/(a); SG235-238; SG240-41; SG445; SG508; SG576.
Comms needed: SG514; SG533; SG558; SG627
  • [13Mar12] #1 SG94 - not a pretty stamp, but it starts at 99p. Ending in five days. Mine for £3.45, 6% of catalogue.
    #2 Another SG94, rather nicer, selling at £6.99.
    #3 SG160 - £11.99, rather over-priced and not quite pretty enough.
    #4 SG192 - I can handle a heavy cancellation, but this is too messy to consider. Selling at £14.99.
    #5 SG192 - worth waiting for, bought 18th Nov 2012 for £5.16.
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Four pence halfpenny

Only two
  • Victoria
  • ✓1892 SG206 green and carmine £15/10 [£7/25]
  • Elizabeth II
  • ✓ 1959 SG577 chestnut < £1
Acquisitions:
Already in stock - none
Stocked but initials needed - n/a
Needed: SG206; SG577.
  • The E2 stamp was acquired on 5th March with a set of 1958 Wildings. The first SG206 was with a used Victoria Jubilee set from ebay on 29th March, followed by a (heavily mounted) mint example from Orpington on 9th June for £2.

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Five pence

The 5ds are quite well-behaved.
  • Victoria
  • ✓ 1881 SG169 indigo £625/110 [£550/65]
  • 1884 SG193 dull green £425/185 [£325/100]
  • 1887 SG207 purple and blue £800/500 plus 1880 SG207a, die II £ 50/35 [£26/5]
  • Edward VII
  • 1902 SG242 purple and ultra £135/60 and SG244 £100/50 [£90/40/15]
    or, new printer SG293-4 purple and blue £60/30 [£50/28/11]
  • George V
  • 1913 SG381-3 various browns, get SG381/2 £15/5. New printer '24 SG425 £20/3
  • 1936 SG446 yellow-brown £7/3
  • Edward VIII - none
  • George VI
  • 1936 SG469 brown £4/1
  • Elizabeth II
  • ✓ 1953 SG522 brown £1/3 with the usual variants, incl. SG578 for pence
  • ✓ 1968 SG735 royal blue pence
  • The first 5d commem is the 1969 SG778 QE2, the third panorama commem, after de Montfort and 1066.
Acquisitions:
Already in stock - SG735
Stocked but initials needed - n/a
Needed: SG169 NB U; SG193 NB U; SG207a; SG293-4 M/U; SG381/2 M; SG446 M; SG469 M; SG578 M.
Commem: SG778 M.
  • [20Mar12] A look at some of the 5ds needed:
    #1 169
    #2 A poor SG193, the only NB so far, selling for £17.50. [16Apr12] Back again, this time for a nine-day auction starting at 99p. It's a shame about the foxing, but nevertheless, worth keeping an eye on.
    #3 SG207a, sold for £10.50.
    #4 SG293
    #5 SG381
    #6 SG446
    #7 SG778
  • [25Mar12] #8 SG215 (with a thin) from a Bexley PS box for £12.


Just SG193 with the right letters to go: I should have bought #2 above in April.

#9 SG193 NB bought for £3.53, 26th Oct 12.
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Sixpence

Unlike the 5ds, the 6ds are complex, with multiple colour changes and even punctuation changes and the lowest value of the three embossed issues.
  • Victoria
  • ✓ 1854 SG58-60 mauve/lilac/purple all £7,500/800 embossed. [£14k/525, 'examples cut to shape are worth considerably less'].
  • ✓ 1856 SG69/70 lilac both £1000/100 no letters [£775/68]
  • ✓✓1862 SG83-85 lilac 83+4 £1500/100 small white [£1k6/50]
  • ✓✓ 1867 SG96-7 or 104-7 lilac all £1250/80 with hyphen [£650/55]
  • ✓✓ 1869 SG108/9 lilac both £600/80 no hyphen [£400/55]
  • ✓✓ 1872 SG122-4 chestnut get SG122a £600/50 [£450/35]
  • ✓✓1873 SG125 grey £1500/225 [£1k1/130]
  • 1873 SG145 buff £17,500 coloured letters [£18k]
  • ✓✓ 1873 SG146/7 grey £500/60
  • and 1881 grey SG161 £350/60 [£300/40]
  • ✓✓1883 SG162 6d on 6d o/p lilac £500/130 [£425/80]
  • 1884 SG194 dull green £450/200 the last letter [£300/110]
  • 1887 SG208/a purple, (a) is rose-red and £50/30 [£20/5]
  • Edward VII
  • 1902 SG245-8 purple(s) all £40/20 and new printer 1911 SG295-301 at similar prices except SG296 [£60/28/14]
  • George V
  • 1913 SG385-6 purple £25/10 and new printer 1924 SG426(a) £12/3
  • Edward VIII - none
  • George VI
  • 1939 SG470 purple £1
  • 1948 SG497 com £1
  • 1949 SG501 com < £1
  • Elizabeth II
  • ✓ 1954 SG523 purple £4/1 and the usual variants
  • 1958 SG568 com pence
  • 1958 SG579 claret pence
  • 1960 SG621 com £2/1
  • 1961 SG629 com pence
  • 1963 SG636 com pence
  • 1968 ✓ SG736 purple pence with bright magenta (SG736Ea, £8/6) and claret (SG736Eb, pence) variants
.
Just SG194 to find with the right initials.
Acquisitions:
Already in stock - SG736 (probably)
Stocked but initials needed - n/a
Needed: SG58-60 U; SG69/70 U; SG83/4 NB U; SG96-7 or 104-7 NB U; SG108/9 NB U; SG122a NB U; SG125 NB U; SG146/7 or 161 NB U; SG162 NB U; SG194 NB U; SG208a M/U; SG245-8 or 295-301 M/U; SG426a M; SG470 M; SG523; SG579; SG736Ea; SG736Eb.
Commem needed: SG497; SG501; SG568; SG621; SG629; SG636.
  • [26Feb12] #1 I failed in my first attempted purchase on this project, a 6d NB on eBay which went for £6. Not a great example with some foxing and damaged perfs, but a handsome NB and a disappointing start.
  • [8Mar12] #2 On ebay at £7.99 (10% of cat) SG109. Poorly centred, the cancel is clean but rather extensive. I might. [18th] I did.
  • [12Mar12] #3 SG122a my first QV 6d, ebay £4.99 and #4 SG147 for £5.99
  • [24Mar12] #5 SG106 starting at £10.99 on ebay. Probably too much for a rather messy stamp.
  • [26Mar12] #6 SG97 bought for £6.50 - a better stamp for 40% less.
  • [4Apr12] #7 SG58 two embossed found today, this one £10.83
  • [16May12] #8 SG125 bought for £4.31.
  • [17May12] #9 SG83 bought for £12.05.
  • [19May12] #10 SG70 bought for £2.75.
  • [8Jun12] #11 SG162 bought for £4.23.
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Seven pence

  • Victoria - none
  • Edward VII
  • 1910 SG249 grey-black £12/20 SG249a darker and dearer. Printer 1912 SG305 slate-grey £15/22 [£10/7/16]
  • George V
  • 1913 SG387 olive £20/10
  • 1915 SG388 bronze-green £60/20
  • 1917 SG389 sage green £70/18
  • Edward VIII - none
  • George VI
  • 1939 SG471 £5/60p
  • Elizabeth II
  • ✓ 1954 SG524 bright green £10/5. Printer 1956 SG549 brt grn £50/10. Perfs 1958 SG580 brt grn pence. And the usual graphos versions.
  • ✓ 1968 SG737 bright emerald machin pence
As with the 8d, the G5 colour variants are too subtle for me to appreciate or wish to acquire. There are far more green examples than mine, and I will look out for one, but which is SG387, 8 or 9 is a matter of indifference.

9d E2 stamp shown above in error.

GB 7d stamps
Acquisitions:
Already in stock - SG737
Needed: SG249 M; SG387 M; SG388 M/U; SG 389 M/U; SG471 M; SG580 M.

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Eight pence

  • Victoria
  • ✓✓ 1876 SG156 orange £1200/300. [£900/175]
    There is also an SG156a purple-brown, prepared but not issued, £7,500.
  • Edward VII - none
  • George V
  • 1913 SG390 black on yellow £32/11
  • 1917 SG391 black and yellow buff £40/15
  • Edward VIII - none
  • George VI
  • 1939 SG472 £8/80p
  • Elizabeth II
  • ✓ 1953 SG525 magenta < £1, printer 1955 SG550 £7/1 and the usuals.
  • ✓ 1968 SG738 bright vermillion machin pence
  • ✓ 1969 SG739 turquoise machin pence


The distinction between SG390 black on yellow and SG391 black and yellow buff is too fine for me. The 1d lion shading is a good example of the sort of differentiation which I regard as significant.
8d stamps
Acquisitions:
Already in stock - SG738, SG739
Needed: SG156 U; SG390 M/U; SG391 M/U; SG472 M; SG525 M.
  • [14Mar12] #1 SG156 £175 on ebay. There are much cheaper copies on sale, so I'm hoping that it's simply a matter of patience.
    #2 In fact here's one for £20: a bit of a mess, but priced to go.
  • [27Mar12] #3 SG156 starting at 99p. Not an NB, but worth considering as an interim solution. [30Mar] I paid £10.38 for it and I'm not sure why: I might as well have run to £20 for #2.
  • [4Apr12] I knew buying #3 was a mistake, but so would #2 have been as #4 popped up on ebay tonight for £22.99. That's the best SG156 NB I'm likely to see in a twelve-month, so I now have two.
  • Now would be a good time to try and wrap up all the 8ds and bag the first full set.
  • [7Apr12] #5 Here's another SG156 selling for £39.99. Better colour than mine, but I'm content.
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Nine pence

  • Victoria
  • 1862 SG86-88 bistre, get 86/87 £3000/400 small white [£4k/280]
  • 1865 SG98 straw £2500/500 and 1867 SG110/11 straw £1800/250. Large white, the last letters. [£1k3/200]
  • 1883 SG195 dull green £900/400 [£725/300]
  • 1890 SG209 purple and blue £60/40 [£45/25]
  • Edward VII
  • 1902 SG250/1 purple and ultra both £90/60. New printer SG306-8 similar prices. [£170/70/40]
  • George V
  • 1913 SG392-4 agate and other greens: get 392 £15/6. New printer 1924 SG427 olive green £12/4.
  • ✓ 1935 SG447 olive green £12/2
  • Edward VIII - none
  • George VI
  • 1939 SG473 deep olgrn £7/1
  • Elizabeth II
  • ✓ 1954 SG526 bronze green £23/5: printer SG551 £20/3: perf SG582 pence.
  • ✓ 1967 SG740 myrtle green pence
Acquisitions:
Already in stock - SG740
Needed: SG86/87 NB U; SG110/11 NB U; SG195 U; SG209 U; SG250/1 M/U; SG392 M; SG447 M; SG473 M; SG582 M.
  • [3Mar12] #1 on ebay starting at £49
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Ten pence

  • Victoria
  • ✓ 1848 SG57 brown £6k/1k embossed [£8k/775, see 6d ]
  • 1867 SG99 red brown, printed on the wrong paper £27k let's be realistic.
  • 1867 SG112-4 rbr , SG112 is £2500/300 large white [£1k9/225]
  • 1890 SG210 purple and carmine £45/38 and SG210b purple and scarlet £80/50. Is carmine sufficiently different to scarlet to care? [£40/24]
  • Edward VII
  • 1902 SG254-25 purple and carmine and SG256 p+scarlet (see question above) all £90/60. New printer 1911 SG309-11 more expensive. [£175/55/40]
  • George V
  • 1913 SG394 turquoise £22/20: printer SG428 more expensive.
  • 1936 SG448 turquoise £15/10
  • Edward VIII - none
  • George VI
  • 1939 SG474 turquoise £7/1
  • Elizabeth II
  • ✓ 1954 SG527 prussian blue £18/5: SG552 perf; SG583 perf: get 1966 SG617d printer pence.
  • ✓ 1968 SG741 machin drab pence
Acquisitions:
Already in stock - SG741
Needed: SG57 U; SG112 NB U; SG210 M (and maybe a 210B M/U); SG254/5 M/U; SG394 M; SG448 M; SG474; SG617d M.
  • [4Apr12] #1 SG57 two embossed found today, this one £13.27.
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Eleven pence

  • Victoria - none
  • Edward VII - none
  • George V - none
  • Edward VIII - none
  • George VI
  • 1943 SG474a plum £3 both
  • Elizabeth II
  • 1954 SG528 brown-purple £35/15 - get the perf SG553 pence.
  • no machin
Acquisitions:
Already in stock - none
Needed: SG474a M; SG553 M.

Both bought at Beckenham Stamp Fair, 28th April 2012.

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One shilling

  • Victoria
  • ✓1847 SG54-56 greens £8750/750 embossed [£16k/550, see 6d]
  • 1856 SG71-3 greens get 72/3 £1400/260 no letters [£2k2/160]
  • 1862 SG89-91 greens, best SG90 £1900/200 small white [£2k2/150]
  • ✓✓1865 SG101 green £1700/200 but SG115-7 (wmk variant) are £700/40. Large white [£480/25]
  • SG 148-163 are large coloured
  • ✓✓ 1873 SG148-50 green £500/100 [£500/80]
  • ✓✓ 1880 SG151 orange-brown £4000/600 and 1881 SG163 o-b (wmk) £500/140. [£425/90]
  • 1884 SG196 dull green £950/225 [£775/150]
  • 1887 SG211 dull green £200/60 [£150/40]
  • 1900 SG214 green-carmine £50/125 [£45/70]
  • Edward VII
  • 1902 SG257 green+red £80/35 and 1910 SG259 g+r £80/50. Printer SG312-14 no cheaper. [£165/60/24]
  • George V
  • 1912 SG396 bistre-brown £35/12 but printer SG429 £22/3
  • ✓ 1936 SG449 b-b £15/1
  • Edward VIII - none
  • George VI
  • 1939 SG475 b-b £9/1
  • 1948 SG498 com £2 both
  • 1949 SG502 com £1 both
  • Elizabeth II
  • ✓ 1953 SG529 b-b < £1; SG554 perf more expensive; SG584 perf, pence; plus the usuals
  • ✓ 1967 SG742 bluish violet machin pence
Acquisitions:
Already in stock - SG742
Stocked but initials needed - none
Needed: SG54-56 U; SG 72/3 U; SG90 NB U; SG115-7 NB U; SG148-50 NB U; SG163 NB U; SG196 NB U; SG211 U; SG214 U; SG257 M/U; SG429 M; <strike>SG449 M; SG475 M; SG529 M.
Commems needed: SG498 M; SG502 M;
  • [23Mar12] #1 on ebay starting at 99p [30Mar] Got it for £10.01.
  • [30Mar12] #2 SG163 starting at 99p [6Apr12] got it for £5.61.
  • [1Apr12] It must be time to start monitoring the embossed issues. The cut to shape stamps sold for a fraction of the cut square and I have no notion why the non-stampy bits of paper make so much difference, so I'll aim for a set of shapes.
  • [11May12] # 3A pair of SG101s for £2.85.
  • [22May12] #4 SG55 for £10 - embossed now complete.
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An examination of definitive colours and associated commemoratives would not be complete without the 1/3, 1/6 and 1/9 values (they sound to me like the prices of fish and chip suppers and cinema tickets - I was too young for beer then).
  • Elizabeth II
  • ✓ 1953 SG530 green £4 both; SG555 more: SG585 £4
  • 1953 SG534 com £5/3
  • 1957 SG559 com £4 both
  • 1958 SG569 com £2 both
  • 1960 SG620 com £3/4
  • 1961 SG630 com £2 both
  • 1962 SG633 com £2 both
  • not SG635
  • no machin
Acquisitions:
Already in stock - none
Needed: SG530 M/.
Commems needed: SG534 M; SG559 M; SG569 M; SG620 M; SG630 M; SG633 M.

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  • Elizabeth II
  • ✓ 1953 SG531 grey-blue £14/4; 556 more; 586 £4
  • 1953 SG535 com £10/5
  • 1960 SG622 com £9/5
  • 1961 SG625A com £2 both
  • 1963 SG641 com £3 both
  • ✓ 1967 SG743 machin pence
Acquisitions:
Already in stock - SG743
Needed: SG586 M.
Commems needed: SG535 M; SG622 M; SG625A M; SG641 M.

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In splendid isolation
  • Elizabeth II
  • ✓ 1967 SG744 orange and black machin £
Acquisitions:
Already in stock - SG744
Needed: none

2/-

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I have only just realised [22Mar12] that there are any two-shilling stamps. I know I intended to stop at 1/-, but then overran with the others . The 2/- are the right size.
  • Victoria
  • 1867 SG118-120b, blues. Look for SG118, 119 or 120 at around £3000/200. There are more expensive colour variants. [£2k1/140]
  • 1880 SG121 brown £17k/3250. I can't see me getting one of those. [£22k/2k]

And I believe that's it: thereafter, 2/6 stamps were issued in larger format definitives.

Acquisitions:
Needed: SG118-120; SG121
No NBs on ebay as at 22Mar.
  • [22Mar12] Just to show what they look like,

    #1 SG120 yours for £275
    #2 SG121 selling for £20,125
  • [11Apr12] You don't get many 2/- browns coming through ebay and no NBs yet. I kept an eye on #3, just to get an idea of prices. It sold with 34 bids from 19 bidders for £749.89, 23% of cat.
  • [16Apr12] SG120, starting at a modest 99p. I tried but came second, it sold for £12.88.
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Higher values,

just for information

  • [29Mar12]
  • [30Mar12] #1 a lovely SG180 for £795.
  • [4Apr12] #2 SG178 2/6, starting at 99p.
  • [20Apr12] #3 SG178 2/6, with a diagonal crease, starting at 99p. And #12 the first £1 NB, SG212, selling for £150: I am tempted.
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Sets

The catalogues sometimes quote prices for definitive sets, the Victoria Jublees or the Ed7 Four. Here's a summary:

Set SG m/u £ Smiths m/u or um/mm/u £ Image
Victoria Jubilee (14 stamps) 650/375 400/200
Ed7 Jubilee (15 stamps) 400/275 -
G5 British Empire Ex
1924
1925

18/8/8
45/30/30
G5 PUC (4 low values) 15/15 20/9/7
Ed7 Four 1/2 50p/50p
G6 1937-47 (15 stamps) 45/10 24/4
G6 Centenary (6 stamps) 9/5 4/4
G6 1941 pale (6 stamps) 4/3 2/1
G6 1951 colour change (6 stamps) 4/3 2/1
E2 Wildings (17 stamps, incl. some expensive varieties) 100/40 70/20
E2 low value pre-dec (16 stamps) 4/4 3/2
E2 high value pre-dec (4 stamps) 10/9 8/4
E2 1970 high value (4 stamps) 6/2 -
E2 1977 high value (8 stamps) 60/32 40/24
E2 1999 high value (4 stamps) - 25/8

The rest

There are a few more notes in the original article which are included here for the sake of completeness.


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  • Victoria
  • 18 SG £
  • Edward VII
  • 19 SG £
  • George V
  • 19 SG £
  • Edward VIII
  • 19 SG £
  • George VI
  • 19 SG £
  • Elizabeth II
  • 19 SG £
  • 19 SG £
Acquisitions:
Already in stock - SG
Stocked but initials needed -
Needed:


Page Notes

  1. The pre decimal acquisition strategy is based on David Wright's article The colours that kept on running from the September 2009 issue of Stamp Magazine.
  2. Prices and most of the data is from a 2007 edition of SG GB Concise with additional information [and prices in square brackets] from British Stamp Market Values 2012, available from Amazon.
  3. Regarding the symbols used next to the wanted lists, a tick (✓) means 'got one', an asterisk (*) means 'initials available' and two ticks (✓✓) mean 'got one with initials'.
  4. In the early days [28Feb12] of analysis, it is becoming clear what an expensive task this will be if pursued with completist zeal. Not wishing my zeal to exceed my judgment (pace RM Nixon) or indeed my pocket, I will restrict myself to representative samples and concentrate on key design and colour changes. To summarise the fiddling with design that went on in the early years of stamps, and ignoring plates, paper, printers, watermarks and perf sizes, there were: Of these, I am likely to seek: all the imperforates; all the 'two corner letters'; white lines (not distinguishing between thick and thin); one of each of the 'four corners', ignoring the colour and size thereof).
  5. [5Mar12] Initial research complete. Next build a wants list in a spreadsheet, prioritise and start looking. Here it is.
  6. [9Apr12] I have added the Smiths prices (see note 2) for the Victorians and they are significantly cheaper, but still much higher than ebay prices. Perhaps the catalogue will be more useful as a simplification of variants rather than a price indicator - the approach is pleasingly similar to mine (see note 4).
  7. My first approach was to log all ebay finds, whether bought or not, on the research pages, but these have been moved to the diary
  8. . I will leave acquisitions and notable examples on the page.

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